MrBlonde7 :

fuckin' snob standard

2009-12-15 13:19:32

standard :

I think I like this more than I did on first glance. The design, at least. Colors not so hot on.

2009-12-15 12:20:33

ZOMIC :

cool poster....crazy comments...this pot smoking douche bag is off to pursue things

2009-12-08 15:58:30

Bennett :

They are now up for sale. Thanks.

2009-07-20 13:53:12

jarredderraj :

most excellent

2009-07-15 07:33:29

workshop :

mmm...pezzzz...

2009-07-13 14:09:07

MrBlonde7 :

errythin makes you want pez

2009-07-13 14:07:49

bdix :

this poster makes me want some Pez

2009-07-13 14:07:02

MrBlonde7 :

seems seems seems

2009-07-13 14:06:26

MrBlonde7 :

That was regarding Voss, not Bennett.

2009-07-13 14:06:10

MrBlonde7 :

Seems like a haughty dick who seems to be getting our (or at least my) goat with his half-baked commentary - at least his name is getting out there (albeit with much douchiness attached to it)...

2009-07-13 14:05:24

Unitus :

either way...

2009-07-13 14:02:11

anchoresse :

unitus, i think dan meant he could tell it was for Neko Case from the thumbnail, not that it was Bennett's work.

2009-07-13 13:59:11

Unitus :

recognizing someone's work from a thumbnail could also mean "one trick pony"

2009-07-13 13:57:36

evanmarnoch :

"He comes across as a pretentious jackoff who is clearly extremely ignorant of this world." This is exactly why I stopped listening to that podcast. I also couldn't stand their "fake" podcast voices.

2009-07-13 13:56:12

strawberryluna :

jason lytle rules all, and that's the truth.

2009-07-13 13:49:56

stinkbait :

I'm sure I wouldn't want to punch him but he needs to have some respect for hard working designers who are cranking out quality work and stop slagging them. He comes across as a pretentious jackoff who is clearly extremely ignorant of this world.

2009-07-13 13:46:47

danstiles :

I know who it's for from the thumbnail. That tells me more than a lot of posters.

2009-07-13 13:44:03

stinkbait :

also in defense of the small secondary type. You dorks are looking at a jpeg. A full size screen print is plenty big. And they are the SUPPORT not the headliner...

2009-07-13 13:43:20

Bennett :

I'll have to come to the defense of Nate here. Although we have disagreed on gig posters over the last year he is a good friend and a good designer. Nate comes across a little harsh on his podcast and 36point, but he is a good guy. I bet if you met him in person, you would not want to punch him.

2009-07-13 13:42:33

bdix :

I would like to thank Geoff for saying my portfolio runs in circles

2009-07-13 13:42:14

stinkbait :

I think it's a nice poster. I also would give leeway to letterpress in regards to the medium being a large part of the aesthetic. Meaning I think the letter/woodblocks used make up for any lack of "communicated message." Design doesn't always have to be delivering some high message. Design to fit the need. Some of our posters are thick with detail that applies directly to the band, their aesthetic, their message and their fans. Others just loosely link and are simply colourful visuals to get attention. What rubs me is someone looking down their nose towards folks making posters as if no thought goes into them and we're all just fucking off playing in ink. Some of the smartest solutions ever laid down in design have been submitted to this site. Also the idea that we have no client and do what we want is bullshit. Some of our poster/music jobs have had the highest level of client interaction out of anything we've ever done. We had more direction from Modest Mouse and The Hold Steady than we did from the Obama Campaign.

2009-07-13 13:41:46

Bennett :

12 point and I would say it is better than an asterisk at the bottom of Neko Case's website.

2009-07-13 13:38:59

DNML :

haha. this thing is kind of funny. with a half glance at the thumbnail I thought it said DEVO. and I got a little excited. looks more like a devo poster than a neko case one. Like the wooden textures, but I'm with seriplop. FUCKING STOP LISTING SUPPORT BANDS IN TINY 8pt font. It's becoming the dumbest tradition ever. Who started it anyway?

2009-07-13 13:32:30

El Negro Magnifico! :

Full disclosure: I listen to 36 Point regularly. I don't always agree with Nate and Donovan (especially on poster issues), but their design discussions are often entertaining (especially when Steve Gordon is around).

2009-07-13 13:30:35

El Negro Magnifico! :

This is a fine discussion.

2009-07-13 13:26:53

Bennett :

Sorry if that came across as a little too snarky. I appreciate all the comments . . . good and bad.

2009-07-13 13:17:44

John A :

Raisinettes!

2009-07-13 13:17:34

MrBlonde7 :

oh SNAP

2009-07-13 13:07:02

Bennett :

On this poster. I was working on the idea for the Neko Case poster and this popped into my head (no I wasn't sitting on this idea). To me this poster pays homage to country music's roots and the Hatch Show Print/letterpress style that has been historically associated with country music. I thought that this more modern/abstract take on a traditional style fit Neko Case really well. Maybe next time I will put in a fox and a bird caught in a cyclone.

2009-07-13 13:03:39

workshop :

nice poster

2009-07-13 13:01:16

Michael Nielsen :

ahhhhaha...poor jason lytle type! nice chloe

2009-07-13 12:56:34

Zach Hobbs :

i made a podcast. I'll kick all your asses.

2009-07-13 12:54:08

crosshair :

sorry Bennett that was not in response to you, just general snark. carry on.

2009-07-13 12:49:18

lil_tuffy :

man, that nate dude is a whiny lil' douchebag. My apologies to Bennett for cluttering his comments with this nonsense.

2009-07-13 12:48:56

crosshair :

and so on. Sour Grapes = funny.

2009-07-13 12:48:02

Bennett :

Wow, I wondered when this day would come. I have been immersing myself in the world of gig posters over the last few years (since the post on BADG). Unlike some people assumed, I WAS really asking questions in that post (in a slightly over-provocative way). I think the post generated some good discussion and I learned a great deal. Like anything there is good and bad to everything. I think gig posters are a great way to flex your creative muscle and pay tribute to the music you love. I also have no problem in creating a great dog food brochure. I think the biggest problem is assuming that creativity and genius can only happening for rock shows, paper promotions or AIGA posters for that mater. So I have no blanket statement to make about the gig poster world, but obviously I have a toe or two dangling in it.

2009-07-13 12:47:37

crosshair :

Those whose own bands fail, write snooty reviews of other bands.

2009-07-13 12:47:33

steve w :

those who can't think twitter

2009-07-13 12:32:41

Tenebrini :

""Those who can't do podcast..." was thinking the same thing. <---- hah! Me too.

2009-07-13 12:32:05

seireyho :

"Those who can't do podcast..." was thinking the same thing.

2009-07-13 12:28:47

stinkbait :

I stand by my comments on Nate's design skills. They are sub par. There are regulars here who's portfolio would run circles around his. Illustration skills are limited even for a cartoonist, branding is non existent... At least Bennett can make appealing work. Those who can't do podcast... Seacrest out!

2009-07-13 12:24:27

anchoresse :

more: http://www.36point.com/articles/2008/05/chicago-international-poster-b.html

2009-07-13 12:01:22

anchoresse :

http://www.36point.com/articles/2008/12/021.html

2009-07-13 11:59:51

slater :

Can someone post the actual link to Nate's gigposter bashing?

2009-07-13 11:23:12

stinkbait :

I'm not coming down on Bennett I want to know how he views posters now. That discussion was a while back and even Nate's rant on the Chicago Biennial was a year ago. While I do like a lot of Bennett's letterpress work I think Nate is a half ass designer who wishes he could do the work AA or Lure or any number of gigposter artists are capable of doing. The deal is we can make rock posters and turn around and brand an airline if we want (which we have done). He can do a podcast and talk down to rock poster designers.

2009-07-13 10:50:45

standard :

This seems like a generally good idea someone was sitting on, waiting for a project that involved two words with the same number of letters. It seems to have very little to do with the music or body of visual work that is already associated with Neko. I actually think the Dane Cook comment is sort of valid. Ha.

2009-07-13 10:20:10

crosshair :

whoah. echo.

2009-07-13 10:17:03

crosshair :

Darn you peveto for posting that link. I can't believe I read that. I live in blissful ignorance of the whole world of design, designers, annuals, competitions... now I know I'm not missing anything. I do enjoy playing with ink.

2009-07-13 10:07:19

crosshair :

Darn you peveto for posting that link. I can't believe I read that. I live in blissful ignorance of the whole world of design, designers, annuals, competitions... now I know I'm not missing anything. I do enjoy playing with ink.

2009-07-13 10:01:46

workshop :

all you fans of nate...he's over here now: http://www.36point.com/

2009-07-13 09:46:01

workshop :

mrblonde is correct. poor bennett was running with the wrong crowd for a while and has since severed relations as far as i know.

2009-07-13 09:40:06

ricv64 :

dog food is more like the name for a poetry slam

2009-07-13 08:21:34

Ghost :

hahahaa

2009-07-13 08:18:59

philaarts.com :

if you put neko case's face on a dog food concert poster... would that be a problem?

2009-07-13 08:18:04

Tenebrini :

I'd be alright with that... make it a hot dog show... even better.

2009-07-13 08:16:31

philaarts.com :

what if you did a poster for a dog show?

2009-07-13 08:15:45

ricv64 :

steve w has good taste in art though

2009-07-13 08:14:57

Tenebrini :

"not worry" that is

2009-07-13 08:14:26

Tenebrini :

I don't mind designing shit for Harley-Davidson so I can make art on the side and now worry about whether or not people will buy it so I can feed my family. Designing dog food brochures on the other hand would seriously bum me out.

2009-07-13 08:14:10

steve w :

I also like jorge's art prints

2009-07-13 08:13:38

philaarts.com :

i love the turkey legs at ren fairez

2009-07-13 08:10:31

ricv64 :

steve w has bad taste

2009-07-13 08:09:25

andydiesel :

"who really WANTS to design a brochure for a dogfood company?" someone who wants a real paycheck instead of hoping that their share of the dog food brochures will sell at a craft faire so they can make rent.

2009-07-13 08:08:07

steve w :

As an Artist, I prefer the taste of Alpo

2009-07-13 07:51:06

philaarts.com :

what type of dog food?

2009-07-13 07:17:27

boadicea :

the question they always seemed to fail to ask was would you rather be a designer or an Artist? who really WANTS to design a brochure for a dogfood company? this piece might work in the latter category?

2009-07-13 07:12:47

steve w :

haven't listened to it, so I don't know the context, but that sounds like a pretty uninformed opinion to me.

2009-07-13 06:04:37

Meeloo :

Interesting discussion on that Be a Design Group blog. I particularly like Televators comment : "The problem designers should have with these posters is not that they don’t have a proper client, but that they all look so similar. The imagery is different, but the style is so similar."

2009-07-13 05:54:00

MrBlonde7 :

Upon a second read, this Bennett seems to not be an asshole, but Nate Voss sure does. I bet that guy just screams "I need a face-punching" if you met him in person.

2009-07-13 00:56:03

MrBlonde7 :

This is from those assholes? Heh. Funny.

2009-07-13 00:43:27

RichieGoodtimes :

A design solution for the wrong problem! Fuck off.

2009-07-12 23:51:00

slater :

Those are pretty valid points he brought in that link Geoff posted. I'm comfortable in what I'm doing but I understand where he's coming from...

2009-07-12 23:26:39

El Negro Magnifico! :

He's an entertaining enough fella.

2009-07-12 23:00:29

seriplop :

sounds like a pleasant guy

2009-07-12 22:34:59

El Negro Magnifico! :

I'll point out that since the Be A Design podcast ended, Nate Voss has taken the "what's up with these gigposters?" thing over to 36point.com, although he hasn't messed with that lately.

2009-07-12 22:29:24

seriplop :

ahhh it's those guys.. so what is this poster communicating about neko case? i'll tell ya one thing , it sure isn't saying much about jason lytle....

2009-07-12 22:27:09

El Negro Magnifico! :

HOLY SHIT. I totally forgot about that.

2009-07-12 22:21:10

stinkbait :

Chloe you were in on the conversation. http://www.beadesigngroup.com/blog/archives/2006/06/gig-posters-were-we-invited-to-the-party.php#more-549

2009-07-12 21:01:12

Platinum Rich :

i'm not familiar with the music so this may be over my head, but this seems like decoration more than design.

2009-07-12 20:54:23

seriplop :

playing with ink? curious to read/hear that.

2009-07-12 20:53:31

lil_tuffy :

I guess I missed that day of school. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

2009-07-12 20:53:13

stinkbait :

I'm curious where Bennett's thoughts are on Gigposters being valid design now. You've obviously thrown your hat into the ring. Is this a design? Is it a smart solution for the client? Did you devalue design by making this poster? You and Adrian asked a lot of questions a while back about wether posters are real design. Adrian went as far to say poster makers are just playing with ink.

2009-07-12 20:38:38

MrBlonde7 :

I'm getting that podcast asap.

2009-07-12 14:06:43

steve w :

Neko was on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me yesterday

2009-07-12 07:49:45

DEADWEIGHT :

So great!

2009-07-11 08:35:11

El Negro Magnifico! :

Good one! I love that woman.

2009-07-11 08:16:29

MrBlonde7 :

I enjoy this.

2009-07-10 19:06:39

jarredderraj :

yessir

2009-07-10 16:08:51

jarredderraj :

yes'm

2009-07-10 16:08:40

Mikey Jacket :

bad ass!

2009-07-10 15:57:17

Hot Snot :

Dope!

2009-07-10 15:15:43

workshop :

yayy

2009-07-10 13:45:57

ROb Weychert :

Wow. Wow. Awesome.

2009-07-10 12:11:31

Bennett :

ancoresse, You have now put a blight on this clean poster . . . & hugs would be plenty.

2009-07-10 10:47:48

mixtapenostalgia :

so so awesome

2009-07-10 10:41:54

anchoresse :

would have been better for DANE COOK. xoxo bennett

2009-07-10 10:38:53

scott campbell :

lovely

2009-07-10 10:30:03

Delicious :

super smart

2009-07-10 10:23:30

eyepeace :

Very Nice!

2009-07-10 10:14:13

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