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DESIGNER:
Le Cadavre 
VENUE:
Gruta 77
Madrid
Spain
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Le Cadavre  
2002-12-16 12:15:37
 
BANDS:
Tokyo Sex Destruction
Mushitcians, The



Tokyo Sex Destruction Poster - Gruta 77, Madrid - Le Cadavre



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Xose L. GarcíaSend Xose L. García a message :   esto parece la biblia! yo también posteo,por sumarme a la masa. Buen póster,también,sí. :D   2006-02-27 10:47:09
ShinyBlueRobotSend ShinyBlueRobot a message :   so I'm sitting here at a hostel in Vancouver and decided to throw a dollar into an internet booth to check my e-mail... then with the extra time left I thought it would be nice to see the latest batch of gigposters... I started surfing through some of the comments and stumbled onto this whole mess. The funny part is - I became so interested in reading the entire drama that I kept having to plug coins into the booth in order to keep reading. heh heh... I think I just spent $5. Can you believe I paid money to read this!? Aaaahh, so satisfying, thanks guys! That was awesome.   2004-07-08 01:04:30
KurtSend Kurt a message :   ahhh memories.   2004-07-06 20:23:36
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   ah. brendan's first steps...   2004-07-06 20:17:34
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   pour yourself a tall drink, have a read through them all, it's fun.
might I suggest;
"I am of mother of texas and father from irak me father fuck your asses...cmon cowboys!"
instant party classic!
  2004-07-06 20:09:26
danielpwilliamsSend danielpwilliams a message :   I don't think I've seen a single poster with so many comments.
I hope they are all complimentary.
  2004-07-06 20:04:58
extrastoutSend extrastout a message :   Nice. :o :o :o   2004-07-06 14:22:20
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   Vroom-vroom! Nyeeeeer.   2004-01-26 06:36:38
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   I'm on the straightaway for 300!   2004-01-20 09:42:04
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   no dude, it was Idi Amin, and it was just once to get my passport back.
fucker.
  2004-01-20 09:23:55
standardSend standard a message :   Okay. WhatEVER, Hitler-lover.   2004-01-20 09:19:15
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   never said I was a fan of Hitler anything, and still I don't like this poster.   2004-01-20 09:12:22
henri-pierreSend henri-pierre a message :   i don't know why people find it cool to paint a hitler bearbrick and don't find this poster cool :-?   2004-01-20 09:05:05
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   Randomazata!   2004-01-15 07:01:26
standardSend standard a message :   Brendan at his finest. Required reading for all new gigposters.com people.   2003-10-16 12:39:19
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I just got it again too on the randomizer   2003-10-16 10:57:54
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   Garden of Random Delights   2003-10-16 09:46:44
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Oh my lord I've been Randomized by Doom! :evil:   2003-08-29 18:04:52
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   Thanks again Randomizer, you beautiful bastard.   2003-08-21 10:14:58
MeelooSend Meeloo a message :   ... i really like the ethical & philosophical chats on gigposters..... :o :o :o :o   2003-08-13 15:39:00
MeelooSend Meeloo a message :   whao !..... very interesting....   2003-08-13 15:34:23
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   tis a good one. i think this is where brenden really introduced himself to the group, as a cat hating patriot.
  2003-08-13 15:08:58
JephSend Jeph a message :   Remember this one?. "Memories...."   2003-08-13 14:52:35
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   oh lord   2003-07-30 12:26:56
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   Random classic!   2003-07-30 12:26:01
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   speak for yourself, dave. i'm a very sweet, nice guy.   2003-05-29 15:41:11
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   we are all a bunch of cocks...
  2003-05-29 15:23:03
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   number two hundred and fifty eight here.   2003-05-29 14:01:31
ENothingSend ENothing a message :   Hooray for comments!   2003-05-29 11:31:07
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   His Irak Father fuck Mother of Texas now, Jorgen go fuck a Cowboy.   2003-02-19 07:06:32
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   thanks for getting back to me!
um..
wheres jorgen, he fucking rules!
  2003-02-19 07:04:39
Le CadavreSend Le Cadavre a message :   the flames were NOT taken from any old punk poster,sorry my friend!.The IDEA was taken from the old Burger King´s spanish logo which used them long ago.Not the same,but almost...   2003-02-19 04:59:59
Le CadavreSend Le Cadavre a message :   no girls,sorry!   2003-02-18 06:17:03
menor66Send menor66 a message :   menos cachiondeo con los españoles, coño. sin en el fondo somos igual de tontos que los gringos.
Vivan los Zapatos, yo como gracias a ellos.
  2003-02-14 20:21:10
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   "fuck your asses...cmon cowboys!"
classic.
  2003-02-14 19:10:50
GrzecaSend Grzeca a message :   Just got home from work- Wow. Good job guys. Love the "dog day afternoon" chant.   2003-02-14 15:59:46
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   she's definately the bassist   2003-02-14 15:25:34
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   notice only one chick is in the poster?   2003-02-14 15:23:11
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   i was once lost for 5 hours in seville, spain. it was scary. i actually got so desperate that i followed a pack of dogs for an hour and half thinking that they may lead me to the right place sort of like dolphins.
nope.
  2003-02-14 15:16:43
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   If I had a shitload of Euros and I liked this poster I'd totally buy it. But I don't.
BUT IT SURE RULES. The Olympics in Barclona rocked and having a day devoted to getting trampled by bulls is AWESOME!
  2003-02-14 15:14:19
maynardSend maynard a message :   This is one of the funniest discussions to someone not involved... Seripop with "i'm so trashy it hurts", Kozik with perfect Spanish cussing, Gun with excellent handling of the situation... and finally Codys : "you father from Sweden Mother from Texas fuck you in Ass dog mother?" Hahahahaa   2003-02-14 15:11:18
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   SWEET!   2003-02-14 15:05:45
KurtSend Kurt a message :   Cool poster.   2003-02-14 15:04:09
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   easy to confuse, like deniro and pacino.   2003-02-14 15:03:46
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   And after that Jype started rippin' on corporate sponsors and the shit really hit the fan.
Oh wait...different argument...oops
  2003-02-14 15:02:48
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   then gun sho started whinning about his dead cat and how ant-establishment he is, and brendan just buried him man!   2003-02-14 14:58:06
standardSend standard a message :   and Kozik got all "Viva Zapatos!"   2003-02-14 14:56:56
KurtSend Kurt a message :   err I ment brush, not brushed.   2003-02-14 14:56:44
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   Then Fishcut to the chase and was all like, "it's just boring"
(Yea I got your e-mail Goodtimes and responded.)
  2003-02-14 14:56:06
KurtSend Kurt a message :   After that, amazingly, there were no comments for over 2 weeks. Then lurking out from under the bushed, Brendan appeared and dropped the bomb. "Inappropriate!" screamed Brendan, awakening many of the have stoned, half drunk poster makers.   2003-02-14 14:56:00
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   And the Jorgen was all 'Frijoles con Queso y tu mama tambien'
and I was all 'yo vivo en la biblioteca'
  2003-02-14 14:52:36
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Yeah dude. I emailed you back. I don't know what to tell you about exposure times for your unit.
If you get frustrated, try going outside and exposing your 'unit'.
  2003-02-14 14:51:16
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   aw shit! i forgot i started this whole thing off. I RULE!   2003-02-14 14:50:30
KurtSend Kurt a message :   But then Bradley came out of nowhere and yelled "this rocks!" That's when the shit got ugly.   2003-02-14 14:50:24
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   and then godisgold was all like, "hmmmmmmmmm...is that WTC"   2003-02-14 14:48:43
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   we could just paraphrase all the posts, i'll start,
first, rockologist said "word. this is all over the place! i like how stiff the flames look, too."
  2003-02-14 14:48:33
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   I've thought it over and Goodtimes is right. What would we have to read without pointless arguments? Exposure times?
Boooring
  2003-02-14 14:47:54
KurtSend Kurt a message :   Come on people, let's start another brawl on this topic! we can get this poster up to 500 comments.   2003-02-14 14:45:45
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't think that the 'think before you submit' idea will work. Seems like it might make gigposters kinda dull.   2003-02-14 14:43:14
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   "Think before you hit the "SUBMIT" button."
Hmm...interesting concept. I think I'll try that...
  2003-02-14 14:39:39
e9Send e9 a message :   stiff flames or not.. right now i could go for a real cuban sandwich   2003-02-14 14:29:39
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   yeah, "friends don't let friends submit"   2003-02-14 14:26:16
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "Think before you hit the "SUBMIT" button."
Those are words to live by around here.
  2003-02-14 14:24:31
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   oh when fighting.. go for the easy cheapshot..
i have to go make fun of irak now.
  2003-02-14 12:18:43
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I can only confirm my own stupidity, and that I would be frightening in hot pants.   2003-02-14 12:01:46
JephSend Jeph a message :   I agree with your last point.   2003-02-14 12:01:20
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   cant we all just agree we are all stupid.. and that hot pants are kinda goofy..
oh and that im retarded?
  2003-02-14 12:00:01
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   Nah, no poster of the week.
comments, so...Nickj Butcher had a poster of the week with like over 400 comments...this is small patatos man.
  2003-02-14 11:31:11
KurtSend Kurt a message :   Poster of the week? It sure is topical. short shorts!   2003-02-14 11:29:52
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   "ALOT more people in the us die from being murdered than who died from this wtc attacks. i'm not trying to make light of anything but seriously there are posters that have ACTUAL PHOTOS of people with thier heads bashed in and the reaction is "oh coool"
so what violence is only wrong if it affected you personally?
that seems really hypocritical to me. and bj i would seriously disagree with you. " Seri - I still have to disagree with you. I do think death is personal. And 9/11 was peronal to ALOT more people than 1 random guy with his head blown off...And I think you yourself would find more trauma in your own parents or friends dying as opposed to a stranger...that is not hypocritical...its human.
  2003-02-14 11:23:27
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i think the flames here were stolen from a famous punk poster...   2003-02-14 11:20:49
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   OK, I'm sorry I didn't know that. Your avatar does suggest it, but avatars don't always represent the person behind them.   2003-02-14 10:53:44
goad74Send goad74 a message :   I'm #67.   2003-02-14 10:52:10
perkinsSend perkins a message :   If I can't be #1, then #2 on everybody. Somebody make Jorgen's father stop fucking my ass. It hurts and it's stinking up the place.   2003-02-14 10:50:55
seripopSend seripop a message :   i'm a girl dumbass.   2003-02-14 10:49:59
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   I tower over the toilet when I first wake up.   2003-02-14 10:48:38
needlesSend needles a message :   hey BJ...
You need a nap. You're cranky.
  2003-02-14 10:48:25
standardSend standard a message :   "The Gun" is like the manliest nickname I've ever heard.   2003-02-14 10:44:14
goad74Send goad74 a message :   C'mon. EVERYONE KNOWS ART CHANTRY IS THE BEST!!!!!   2003-02-14 10:41:25
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   c'mon, kozik. everyone knows speed is the best.   2003-02-14 10:41:24
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Seripop says he's gonna hate me forever though, so that's it, this might be my last day here.
Actually I kind of feel at home with people who hate me, so maybe not.
  2003-02-14 10:40:24
kozikSend kozik a message :   IM THE BEST! or is it Coop..I forget.   2003-02-14 10:39:40
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   No, I've said that already in one way or another. If I haven't, then let this serve as confirmation of that fact   2003-02-14 10:38:29
seripopSend seripop a message :   not many people are better artists than the gun equals yes but not a whole lot of betters   2003-02-14 10:37:52
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   damn. we're still talking about this?   2003-02-14 10:34:35
goad74Send goad74 a message :   Oh ok. For second there I thought you were saying that you were artistically better then Gun Sho, which you aren't. Thanx for clearing that up......   2003-02-14 10:31:41
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   "people who I tower over in every way. (O.K. maybe I'm overstating that.)" Delusions of grandeur. Defense mode. Being an asshole. The act of saying your better than someone in hopes it will make it so. You know, just what a jerk like me would do.   2003-02-14 10:29:04
goad74Send goad74 a message :   I don't think you should regret the pun, I think you should regret the insinuation that you were better in "every way" then the people you were argue. Could you clarify what you meant? Did you mean artistically or did you mean like at wiffle ball? C'mon, this poster is going to make it to 666 comments.........   2003-02-14 10:24:31
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Sadly, I didn't realise the pun until I hit submit, and then immediately regretted it   2003-02-14 10:20:47
kozikSend kozik a message :   I tower over Richie cause he's only like 4'11"   2003-02-14 10:20:38
goad74Send goad74 a message :   I'm still trying to figure out the "tower over" statement. Oh wait, I get it. It's a play on words. The poster is about the World Trade Towers.......witty. Damn, where's that rolling eyes emoticon when you need it.   2003-02-14 10:19:02
robschwagerSend robschwager a message :   It's best to swallow your pride before it swallows you.....   2003-02-14 10:16:49
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Kozik wrote Pretty early on: "I think Gunsho is the guy you should like apologize to..he's like a good dude."
Now - because I'm immature, new here, out of my element like Donny, etc. . .
I didn't take his word for it. That's not even the point though, I am treating this site the same way I treated the early internet of the mid-nineties: a venue for venemous selfrighteous attacks on people you don't know.
That is ofcourse not only direspectful, but cowardice at its base.
The way Gun Sho handled this after he read my ill-advised remarks was probably the most impressive thing I've seen in a great while.
So the rule is for Brendan: Don't react to opposing points of view.
Cut your teeth before you assume you have a right to say anyhting.
Think before you hit the "SUBMIT" button.
Take Kozik's word on things you know nothing about.
Seek psychiatric care as soon as possible
Get the ulcer checked out.
O.K. I getting too personal now.
I hate myself
  2003-02-14 10:14:30
kozikSend kozik a message :   oh man..I met that dude once years ago...he had just gotten his first part on 'Miami Vice'...he tagged along with a friends girlfriend to a show at Emo's and all night he was doing coke and talkin' about gettin a part on
'The Vice!'
heh. He was pretty tho.
  2003-02-14 10:00:46
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   yes but how does that explain Lou Diamond Phillips?   2003-02-14 09:57:20
kozikSend kozik a message :   Aztecs where hardcore...could whipped the spanish except they where like religiously deluded and fell for some mumbo-jumbo.
Interesting note about AzteState Sponsored cannibalism. Original unexpurgated texts reveal that upon initial entry into Mexico City the main plaza was surrounded by a wall that contained over 1.5 million human skulls, all victims of snatch and grab 'protein raids' by the Aztecs against the lesser Miztec tribes up north. Nice people the Aztecs. No wonder the Spanish thought they where evil. Now, you got a nice gentic mix going on..Brutal Spanish Genes that survived and inbtermingled with the Arab invaders then with Aztecs...
MUCHO MACHO.
  2003-02-14 09:53:54
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   So the Aztecs were "shared" to death, makes sense.   2003-02-14 09:48:36
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   oh, and try the fish.   2003-02-14 09:47:50
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   im offically saying richie is right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.   2003-02-14 09:47:22
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   heh. This is sweet.
Like, OK...the poster, in my opinion, is not that good. Its pretty 'run-of-the-mill' stuff...like Max Flo said. But like, almost 200 comments? THIS guy SUCCEEDED. He did something that made you react, and it proves that 'content' is more important than 'technique'. At least I think so. Like, this guy made you look. THAT is the art of 'poster making'.
  2003-02-14 09:46:07
kozikSend kozik a message :   My Conquistador ancestors called it 'sharing'   2003-02-14 09:45:34
standardSend standard a message :   gunsho, I damned well better have one of the opinions you value, because every word out of my mouth is gold. GOLD I tell you.   2003-02-14 09:44:08
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   we like to call it "Subjugation" genocide didn't happen until a hundred years or so later.   2003-02-14 09:42:02
kozikSend kozik a message :   so your pops side speciallized in Original Tribes Genocide?   2003-02-14 09:39:56
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   My Dad's family's been here since the 1600's, my Mum's family's been here since 1917..Czech's straight offa the boat. We all have the foreigner "smell" and I'm not talking about the band, they have a different smell all their own.   2003-02-14 09:39:11
kozikSend kozik a message :   ATTICA! ATTICA!   2003-02-14 09:38:22
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   Straight up and down!   2003-02-14 09:37:34
seripopSend seripop a message :   word up james.
seriously i'm like a french canaidan catholic russian jew daugter of a draff doging imigrant yank and a white trash montain dwelling french speaking russian and i'm so trashy it hurts and it feels good.
  2003-02-14 09:36:16
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   Brendan Jordan, You are so lucky that I wasn't on here when you posted your little diatribe because I would have subjected you to the most humilating barrage of shit you've ever read.
As far as "towering over" anyone on this forum, I'd take a long hard look at my posters, and then yours, and then some other posters on here, and reconsider that statement. You seriously need to walk the fine line.
I'm not going to defend my opinions about this poster any further because I already did so in a thoughtful and intelligent manner, As far as your opinion of me goes... you can call me an anti-establishment douche. You can shit on my dead cat. You can appologize, I don't care. I don't know you, all I know is that, like everyone else on here, you are entitled to your opinion. Personally, I value some opinions on here more than others. Why? Because many of these people on this forum, I respect more than most artists, living or dead. They make posters, something I fucking love. They have a body of work and the experience to engage in intelligent debate about a poster. Since you are "new", you have no idea what sort of shit-storms have arisen and died down on this site about a mulitude of issues, in the end, everyone makes up because they respect eachother. You haven't earned my respect simply because your logged into the website.
There is a community here that is quickly moving beyond the internet, you've come on here in an effort to become part of it with very little work to back it up. Like Frank says, don't shit where you eat. Trust that.
  2003-02-14 09:33:10
kozikSend kozik a message :   I wonder what that spaghetti-bender Juany La Canolli gonna have to say about all of this........   2003-02-14 09:32:14
kozikSend kozik a message :   1. The french are Nazi stooges 2. The French hold all the major oils contracts with YRAK 3.Im a fucking POLACK SPIC 4.PUNK means wearing your stupid leather jacket ya bought from Sears even in the middle of summer when it was 10 million degrees and thinking your where FUCKING COOL. Pussay was abundant, especially for ugly dudes. 5.I suck 6. Jermaine is a genius 7. This poster looks great but it's like tacky.   2003-02-14 09:30:00
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   you father from Sweden Mother from Texas fuck you in Ass dog mother?   2003-02-14 09:29:43
KurtSend Kurt a message :   But my bad grammar is very American.   2003-02-14 09:26:48
seripopSend seripop a message :   le mode sexy est taboo pour les americains- c'est ben trop trash.   2003-02-14 09:26:42
KurtSend Kurt a message :   "short shorts" is un-American   2003-02-14 09:25:42
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   I think we're getting off topic here, "Short Shorts" Ladies and Gentlemen, discuss.   2003-02-14 09:23:57
seripopSend seripop a message :   non. j'suis crisment sale et conne en plus. tout a cause que je suis pas du meme pays que monsieur brendanjordan qui est inevitablement mon superieur. c'est pas a cause q'ou aime pas un tell affaire qu'on a le droit de donner d'la marde a 'importe qui pas d'accord. especiallement d'un tell qui n'as pas un bout de talent en art ou design? va doc chier estie de neo-nazi.   2003-02-14 09:23:51
perkinsSend perkins a message :   I would just about pay your way just to see the fireworks display. Just wait at least until the shrooms kick in   2003-02-14 09:21:08
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I knew you 'd like that opportunity to lay into me, That's why I did it, for your enjoyment.
I really am sorry I was such an ass. I should have just let my initial statement stand, but I'm an idiot, and so it goes
  2003-02-14 09:20:34
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Unfortunately I'm neither talented enough, or wealthy enough to go to FS2. Otherwise I'd let you crusify me.   2003-02-14 09:18:18
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   "hey bredan- ever thought that maybe the artist here was trying to get a rise outta people? but i'm not american so i guess my words don't count right?" And your personal Hygiene is off too.   2003-02-14 09:18:10
seripopSend seripop a message :   c'est la vie. dumb hick   2003-02-14 09:17:43
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   you see, that's my point. It's fine for foreigners to make fun of me , but when I say something about foreigners, they can't stand it.
I really don't care anymore. you've desensitized me, I'll probably die in a terrorist attack anyway. If I could spell "say la vie" in French I would, but I'm too American for that
  2003-02-14 09:16:54
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Le Cadavre does some great shit. I'm not gonna judge this designer for one piece that touched a nerve. Gotta admit I'm looking forward to watching a few of you guys throw down at FS2. This is pure-ass entertainment!   2003-02-14 09:16:45
JGexSend JGex a message :   I'm gonna have to quote Chloe on this debate: "Oy Vey!!"
I think when someone is offended, we have to allow for that. However, if we start being "poster police" about content, whose ideals/morals/ethics are we going to go with? Who will determine what is acceptable or not?
Brendan, just because your tender sensibilities are offended, realize that ART is sometimes MEANT to offend.
It certainly got your attention.
  2003-02-14 09:15:35
seripopSend seripop a message :   and kurt i think calling mr bj an artist might be streching things abit   2003-02-14 09:14:40
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I'm leaving now, I've got to go to class. So I guess I'll see how I fare when I get back   2003-02-14 09:13:35
seripopSend seripop a message :   hey bredan- ever thought that maybe the artist here was trying to get a rise outta people? but i'm not american so i guess my words don't count right?   2003-02-14 09:12:46
seripopSend seripop a message :   alot of the posters on this site are in bad taste i think that's why many of us do posters in the first place no fucking limits plust u can piss people off now there is alot of stuff i don't like or wouldn't do personally but it takes alot to really offend me ALOT of my familly died under stalin- i sure as fuck don't get weepy eyed over posters with a commie- russian vibe. no scared cows.   2003-02-14 09:11:09
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Yeah, common consensus is that I'm a racist, overreacting ass.
Except for the racist thing which was just put in to get a rise, you're probably right.
I'll keep my emotions locked up in a drawer. It's the McTemper flaring up.
  2003-02-14 09:11:05
KurtSend Kurt a message :   Christ, it took me 10 minutes to read all this. What I got out of this was BJ thinks America rules and every other country is shit. Tell it to us straight Brendan, you hate the poster, but what really gets you angry is that a non American made it. Looks at what you have said in this thread? “your personal hygene is most likely lacking as well” “you are not of any consequence to we Americans” “I sure as hell don't need some piece of Eurotrash telling me a goddamn thing!” “Americans who don't like other Americans – Leave” Your comments remind me of a certain prinde for ones country that Germany had in the 1940’s. For an “artist” Brendan, you are pretty fucking conservative.   2003-02-14 09:10:54
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   Not a big fan of the snuff posters either, thought they were in really bad taste, and for you fans of that who love them, my fucking opinion. What happened here is some guy pissed on consecrated ground which he had every right to do. Not the most sensitive thing in the world to do but some of you guys have never struck me as the sensitive type before why do it now, because it p.c.? I dunno about that, BJ, you say a lot of things that are uncalled for, bringing a personal attack into this just shows your level of maturity. Again, I think this poster is alright, I think it's in bad taste. Take it as opinion, that's all it's worth.   2003-02-14 09:07:08
Le CadavreSend Le Cadavre a message :   pero que cojones esta pasando aqui?!...la puta!... Yo flipo y me quedo teleñeco... madre de dios!   2003-02-14 09:03:40
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   OK, that's your right. I don't condone "snuff" posters, and if I've seen them, I haven't realized what I'm looking at. This happened to catch my eye however.   2003-02-14 08:42:05
seripopSend seripop a message :   ALOT more people in the us die from being murdered than who died from this wtc attacks. i'm not trying to make light of anything but seriously there are posters that have ACTUAL PHOTOS of people with thier heads bashed in and the reaction is "oh coool" so what violence is only wrong if it affected you personally? that seems really hypocritical to me. and bj i would seriously disagree with you.   2003-02-14 08:40:16
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I see the differeence because I'm not an idiot. What I was saying, if you actually read what I wrote, was it is FACT vs. FICTION.
Posters based on murders or other violent acts that are based in fact are merely insensitive.
Their artistic merit is another issue all together.
  2003-02-14 08:35:19
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   uhmm, one random peron.
vs.
thousands of people at once that people knew. I.E. a large EVENT not a single MURDER. what your saying is death = death = death
And I personally disagree. If your mom was rapped beaten and disembowed you will probably feel different about her death than if she was in say a car accident. see the difference?
I am not offended by this myself but I can easily see where a New Yorker with friends and family who were hurt in 9/11 might take offense.
  2003-02-14 08:31:49
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I haven't seen, nor do I do those posters. If they are based in fiction however, then there is a big difference.
My aim when I came back was not to be racist, but to try to piss off those who attacked my comments in the same fashion they did me.
  2003-02-14 08:30:56
seripopSend seripop a message :   i'm amazed how ignorant and racist your comment was again what i don't get is why the fuck is this so offensive but the posters of people's faces blown off cool? serious question here.   2003-02-14 08:27:22
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   your use of the word 'torrent' really offends me man.   2003-02-14 08:25:58
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Imagine my amazment last night when I realised a comment I made set off a torrent of opinionated "debate"   2003-02-14 08:21:37
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   i just did- it took like, 10 minutes. wow, where do i start? it all cionfused me, but i liked all of the cussing.   2003-02-14 08:18:16
JephSend Jeph a message :   Someday I'm gonna read all these comments.   2003-02-14 08:11:58
JGexSend JGex a message :   This is very nearly the funniest shit I've ever read....   2003-02-14 07:59:35
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   not in Austin or Albuquerque...lil pretty NewWave girls loved all us lil skate punk boys...those years where a pussy goldmine for me.   2003-02-14 07:58:57
standardSend standard a message :   Im my hometown, punk meant you were ugly, poor, or ugly & poor.   2003-02-14 07:57:05
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   in Texas punk meant that you picked your own mushrooms.
And you never complained about pain incurred from any skateboarding incedent...and you huffed alot of freon and skated ramps, pools, streets and ditches wherever you could find them.
Also it was our job to enject a bit of chaos on the local society. Like when we chunked old used skateboard wheels out of my old Station wagon onto the highway and oncoming traffic. They would bounce off a semi, fly 50 ft in the air bounce over a median.
THen there was tue. and thursday trashcan target practice with the station wagon during trash pickup days.
my indigent childhood.
  2003-02-14 07:54:27
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   this poster isn't very Punk, I'd say it's more "Grunge".   2003-02-14 07:51:46
GrzecaSend Grzeca a message :   Holy shit- I miss this board for one day and all THIS shit happens...best thread ever . Least favorite part - beating on James about his cat- man get some fucking class. Otherwise i second Standards comment-- "keep this thread alive!!!!"
1200 here we come.
  2003-02-14 07:50:36
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   yeah.. has this kid ever been in SEATTLE?????!!!!!
  2003-02-14 07:48:20
jasoncrossSend jasoncross a message :   I find this fucking hilarious :
"the way I spell it makes it more punk"
I am so sick of peeps thinking that the way they do something makes them punk. especially mofo's who are under 30 that have no idea what the fuck the real punk movement was...whci happened to be a bit different depending on which region you were in.
  2003-02-14 07:46:28
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   not exciting . . . it's meant to be insulting . . . freudian slip   2003-02-14 07:33:48
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   You know, I've never considered myself a Cowboy, just because I'm an American. Being from NY it didn't make sense. It's weird how international perception and domestic regional perceptions are so different.
But, being referred to as a cowboy is pretty cool, even if it's meant to be exciting
  2003-02-14 07:33:19
standardSend standard a message :   Thank God one of you Americans are on the ball.   2003-02-14 07:32:31
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i put it in my signature about 2 hours ago... ride em cowboy.   2003-02-14 07:29:41
standardSend standard a message :   Foreign tongues, apologies, and the WTC. What a thread! My fave so far:
"me father fuck your asses...cmon cowboys!"
Let's keep this one alive!
  2003-02-14 07:28:49
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   QUIT?????? QUIT????
hey muchacho! you arent in france....
  2003-02-14 07:12:58
lureSend lure a message :   isn't finally time to vote someone off the island?   2003-02-14 06:39:41
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   lol. its still goin..
ok.
bukakke!! and like taco bell and shit.
poster still sucks. id elaborate but i dont know spanish too well.
and remember who butters your toast. adios and shalom or sumthin
  2003-02-14 06:30:15
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   in Spain K is for the basque punks, they wear mullets and tracksuits.   2003-02-14 06:20:35
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   jaja, como sabes que tengo vespa? Eres un fortune teller! Whao! Solo hacia el mosquito, desde que se ha ido Richie (aka Captain Goodtimes) estoy aburrido :(   2003-02-14 06:14:21
robschwagerSend robschwager a message :   I thought Kozik was that "mother from Texas".....   2003-02-14 06:11:48
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   They don't teach you to spell Iraq in Iraq, that's weird.   2003-02-14 06:11:46
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   how profound.   2003-02-14 06:09:53
lureSend lure a message :   weighing in late here. as i deisgn, i like it. but i hate this poster for the obivious reasons. especailly after reading "surfing over nyc. oops!". inappropriate, amazingly bad taste. bad timing.   2003-02-14 06:06:38
kozikSend kozik a message :   Oye Oncito..mejor de pones a cantar para Flamenco y dejas
'La Vida Rockera'
a Los Americanos.
O tienes Vespa y te parece muy rebelde......
  2003-02-14 06:00:47
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   zzzZZzzzZZzz   2003-02-14 05:54:37
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Gun Sho,
I am sorry about your cat. That shouldn't have entered the coversation.
I am sorry that I called into question your motives for being a big meanie.
  2003-02-14 05:48:26
kozikSend kozik a message :   dude I know. but the cat was like, family.
this poster is crap. that Jorgen dude came on, read my shit and didnt respond. so fuck him twice.
I like Gunsho. You should like square up with him.
  2003-02-14 05:44:34
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   My point on the cat was that the WTC around here was far worse.
I know, my dog died shortly after 9/11, the day after my birthday in fact, and I had had him since I was nine.
  2003-02-14 05:41:36
robschwagerSend robschwager a message :   yup   2003-02-14 05:41:05
kozikSend kozik a message :   yeah, but the cat crack was like below the belt. it's like talking smack on a persons recent loss of a child.
I have a cat.
  2003-02-14 05:39:47
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I am sorry about the cat though   2003-02-14 05:38:39
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Gun Sho called me out by my name and said I had a "cookie cutter" response to world events because I acted emotionally toward a very personal tragedy in my life.
He doesn't expect me to ask him to tea, does he?
  2003-02-14 05:37:52
kozikSend kozik a message :   I thin Gunsho is the guiy you should like apologize to..he's llike a good dude.   2003-02-14 05:34:25
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I kind of picked that up Frank, but I had to be clear on the point that I'm not KKK   2003-02-14 05:34:19
kozikSend kozik a message :   ? dude- I told that Jorgen dude in Spanish that hes a fucking piev=ce of shit, that his mother is a whore who will suck arab cock in hell forever etc etc.
like..I HATE this poster.
I AM an immigrant...
  2003-02-14 05:32:40
robschwagerSend robschwager a message :   thank goodness.....   2003-02-14 05:32:38
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Oh, also, I can't learn German or Spanish because, evidently, I'm an idiot.   2003-02-14 05:30:51
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   You know, something told me Kozik would not like what I had to say, so now that I've sobered up a bit:
Try to find anyone here whose parents or grandparents weren't immigrants. That's not the point. What is? (moving far from the poster itself now): Americans who don't like the government -- not great,but at least they have a point. Americans who don't like other Americans -- Leave. Foreign Nationals looking to come here and work well within our society -- Best of luck Foreign Nationals who come here looking to do harm -- you will be dealt with. Foreign Nationals who aren't here, and understand the average American citizen is usually as blameless as they are, and furthermore has problems of their own, have a great life, I harbor no ill will toward you, just as you don't towards me. Foreign Nationals who aren't here, but wish us ill will, I have no use for you. I don't exist personally for you, and I hope to God you never exist personally for me.
Also, about language: I can't learn a second language if it meant my life. The American edcation system is wholy lacking in that regard, and so I lash out unjustly on occasion. That is one of my own shortcomings.
All of my grandparents came from Ireland. The Irish had their language suppresed by the British for 400 years. I don't agree with hegemony, but I can't do anything about it.
I don't understand enough about world politcs to give an answer on how to fix all of this, but neither do most people.
I'm done now
  2003-02-14 05:25:46
kozikSend kozik a message :   Naci en Torrejon, creci en Toledo y Madrid con veranos en Vigo y luego Benidorm...mi madre espanola my Padre americano asi soy cochino por dos partes.   2003-02-14 02:03:09
menor66Send menor66 a message :   yo creia que tu eras aleman y luego viniste a españa, no sabia que fueras un cochino subnormal como yo.   2003-02-14 02:01:16
kozikSend kozik a message :   Los del POUM eran como fanaticos para Stalin Y eranmuy de 'Matar Monjas' y todo eso. Al fin eran demasiado para todos y abia mucha matanza entre ellos y los republicanos mas normal.
Mis abuelos eran de Barcelona y la familia se perdio TODO en 38.
  2003-02-14 01:57:27
menor66Send menor66 a message :   no conocia ese partido, el mio uno de la cnt y otro del movimiento. No se quien es el jorgen   2003-02-14 01:53:47
kozikSend kozik a message :   Partido Obrero Unido Marxista eran
"Hardcore' assholes en La Guerra Civil.
quien es este type Jorgen-es-el-idiota?
  2003-02-14 01:51:53
menor66Send menor66 a message :   Franco franco que tiene el culo blanco porque su mujeeeeer lo lava con arieeeeeel. ¿Que es la poum?   2003-02-14 01:50:17
kozikSend kozik a message :   Oye Jorgen, QUE TU MADRE < LA GRAN OUTA DEL MUNDO SE HECHA A CHUPAR PORRAS MORENAS EN EL INFIERNO!
VIVA FRANCO! TODO PARA LA PATRIA ESPANA ES UNA MIERDA DE COCHINOS SUBNORMALES!
MIS ABUELOS ERAN LA POUM!
QUE LA ETA TE TOMA POR CULO!
etc.
  2003-02-14 01:18:00
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I don't like this poster. I don't like it because it's boring. It looks very 1996 retro 70's crap that just wont go away. That whole 70's design style that refuses to die. I'm over it completly.
I also don't think it's that brave or daring. I think it very easily could have been. Instead it only went half way to being offesive. If your gonna do it, do it right. I myeslf would have never even gotten the 9/11 connection if it wasn't brought up. The Beastie Boys dancing around on some burning buildings does not political art make. If I did a twin towers piece, there would be no mistake about what it was.
Find a better poster to argue about.
  2003-02-14 00:49:09
seripopSend seripop a message :   hey bj- take a fucking chill pill   2003-02-14 00:34:25
goad74Send goad74 a message :   "That might be, but I gave my initial opinion on it, and because of that, most seriously my morals, and much less seriously my tastes have been brought under scrutiny by people who I tower over in every way. (O.K. maybe I'm overstating that." WAY OVERSTATED.   2003-02-14 00:30:13
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   That might be, but I gave my initial opinion on it, and because of that, most seriously my morals, and much less seriously my tastes have been brought under scrutiny by people who I tower over in every way. (O.K. maybe I'm overstating that.)
I don't need some anti-establishment douche like Gun Sho saying shit to (or more accurately about) me. And I sure as hell don't need some peice of Eurotrash telling me a goddamn thing! I usually don't like to think of myself as a nationalist, becaise I know the U.S. has done some terrible things, but it was the common man who suffered on 9/11/01, not the elected officials or the military (they both probably benefitted in a perverse way). People from many nations died that day, and if you support that in any fashion, you are worthless.
  2003-02-13 23:55:20
needlesSend needles a message :   it's just a poster.   2003-02-13 23:46:23
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   jorgen_is_yo
If you're not American, and you don't speak the language well (which you obviously don't) don't get involved. You make us laugh too hard.
Don't you get that you are not of any consequence to we Americans?
Come to think of it, your personal hygene is most likely lacking as well -- so fuck you there too!
  2003-02-13 23:45:18
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Hey, Fuck you and your dead cat Gun Sho!
It's ok for you to be "reactionary" because of a dying cat, but I make a comment because I'm a New Yorker, and you fucking give ME shit about not realizing other peoples perspectives?
This is a bad poster through and through, and it also happens to show zero compassion nor empathy.In NY there were people with actual artistic expressions in the form of scultures and paintings depicting people jumping from the towers -- I, although I felt really bad for the families of those who perished, had to support the artists right to portray their vision of this particularly terrible event in the medium and manner they chose -- but they weren't making light of it, and they weren't making fun of it. Like I said, I'm all for artistic expression, but take what comes with it -- criticism from people who think you're an asshole.
This artist might not get fully what this did to me and everyone I know, but Gun Sho, you do know, and you're still acting like this.
You, Gun Sho, are not even worth coming up with a definitive insult for.
  2003-02-13 23:37:02
altieriSend altieri a message :   I love that song.   2003-02-13 19:00:13
seripopSend seripop a message :  
Well some people try to pick up girls And get called assholes This never happened to Pablo Picasso He could walk down your street And girls could not resist his stare and So Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole
Well the girls would turn the color Of the avacado when he would drive Down their street in his El Dorado He could walk down you street And girls could not resist his stare Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole Not like you Alright
Well he was only 5'3" But girls could not resist his stare Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole Not in New York
Oh well be not schmuck, be not abnoxious, Be not bellbottom bummer or asshole Remember the story of Pablo Picasso He could walk down your street And girls could not resist his stare Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole Alright this is it
Some people try to pick up girls And they get called an asshole This never happened to Pablo Picasso He could walk down your street And girls could not resist his stare and so Pablo Picasso was never called...
  2003-02-13 18:50:50
maynardSend maynard a message :   Well, I don't really "like" the design, meaning that I wouldn't hang it in my bedroom.
I do like the fact that this poster makes me feel something. It isn't just decoration or another obvious pun.
I just don't like what it makes me feel.
  2003-02-13 16:22:13
robschwagerSend robschwager a message :   Look kids... there goes a REAL LIFE Captain America....
Good bye Mr. Goodtimes... we love you!!!!!
  2003-02-13 15:27:48
menor66Send menor66 a message :   I think this poster rules, i didn't realize it was the WTC until i read it here. It's one of my favourites from LeCadavre.   2003-02-13 15:27:04
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   my work is done here, but thanks for playing.   2003-02-13 15:16:13
standardSend standard a message :   Who the hell is "PD"?   2003-02-13 15:15:10
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   oh shit, i was fighting with jeph...
the other dude is busy translating his witty retort.
  2003-02-13 15:05:59
robschwagerSend robschwager a message :   BWAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!
Richie Goodtimes: the Last Great American.
Period.
  2003-02-13 15:02:10
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   whos your daddy?   2003-02-13 15:01:08
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   which dude in short shorts are you?   2003-02-13 14:59:06
JephSend Jeph a message :   Right Tom...er wait I'm French   2003-02-13 14:52:09
JephSend Jeph a message :   All right I'm heading home, type to you freaks later. USA!!!!USA!!!USA!!!   2003-02-13 14:51:31
standardSend standard a message :   Fuck 'em, Jeph! Your accent isn't so bad!   2003-02-13 14:50:44
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't know what's going on either, but I am reading some of those posts with that funny Spanish accent where they lisp.   2003-02-13 14:49:52
kozikSend kozik a message :   my ONLY talent is being an asshole.   2003-02-13 14:49:00
JephSend Jeph a message :   I believe it must be a "language barrier", heh.
I don't know what that meant....sorry
  2003-02-13 14:48:59
standardSend standard a message :   I'm not quite following the current conversation, but I find it wildly fascinating.   2003-02-13 14:46:47
JephSend Jeph a message :   WOW, I"M a talented asshole!   2003-02-13 14:43:39
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :  
picasso was a talented asshole.
  2003-02-13 14:42:26
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I'm sorry.
pssst...wh here believes that?
  2003-02-13 14:30:22
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I was thinking the exact same thing.   2003-02-13 14:25:44
BryanSend Bryan a message :   I don't like the design either. It's got nothing to do with WTC. This just doesn't tickle my fancy. Also is that guy peeing off that one tower?   2003-02-13 13:25:01
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   oops, sorry for fucking around :(   2003-02-13 13:24:19
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   I would philaarts but i am too pissed because i don't have any :(   2003-02-13 13:21:52
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   yeah.. but look, you guys are really tall and dance in short shorts!!!
peace, im sure we will be covering your butt in the next few months... dont worry, its on the house :)
  2003-02-13 13:21:47
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   I would philaarts but i am too pissed because i don't have any :(   2003-02-13 13:21:21
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   I would philaarts but i am too pissed because i don't have any :(   2003-02-13 13:19:45
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   cant we just belittle europe by making fun of the euro?   2003-02-13 13:16:52
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   AMERICA RULES!   2003-02-13 13:14:49
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   Wait, huh... yeah, i have a couple of them cooking huevos fritos in the kitchen right now.   2003-02-13 13:13:45
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   short shorts!   2003-02-13 13:13:11
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   and Spain? That's like close to Africa. You guys didn't have anything to do with that whole slavery hoo haw?   2003-02-13 13:10:42
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   it rings a 'vaginal pear".   2003-02-13 13:08:15
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   The Inquisition ring a bell?   2003-02-13 13:07:21
ArnauSend Arnau a message :   So you mean than a person in NY gets a "special right" when it comes to talk about all this? 9-11 was a joke compared to all the people who died "courtesy of" the american flag through 200 years of history. Being P.C. with this is the easiest point.   2003-02-13 13:04:34
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   son of a bitch. George Bush uses a fucking autoresponder. Well, shit. Maybe he'll get to it later. Anyone know Tom Ridges email?   2003-02-13 12:42:56
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I have just emailed the President (president@whitehouse.gov) with a link to this poster.
Don't worry Americans! This should be taken care of shortly!
  2003-02-13 12:39:58
perkinsSend perkins a message :   nothing is taboo   2003-02-13 12:36:33
RockerGirl77Send RockerGirl77 a message :   for what its worth (which i am aware is not much) i think it kicks ass.   2003-02-13 12:28:44
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   flowers and ponies   2003-02-13 12:26:38
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Watch it Cadavre. You're either with us or against us! You keep this up and we'll be bombing Spain. GO AMERICA!   2003-02-13 12:21:44
Le CadavreSend Le Cadavre a message :   there´s no reason why we should all designing flowers and ponys...   2003-02-13 12:16:06
Le CadavreSend Le Cadavre a message :   ay ay ay!...take it easy all of you,people.It´s easier than what you think.Not going to spend my time telling you all what this poster means because my english is really poor and i dont feel i have to... Lots of people die everyday,lost of shit happens everyday,everywhere and every second.We are all fucked up!...this is just an example...   2003-02-13 12:15:00
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   "obviously something was going through the artists heads, obviously it's intended to cause a reaction. so was that entirely unimaginative nashville pussy poster with a confederate flag and a pussy. "
again taste.. you are sorta saying this poster artist has more thought behind it.. and in contrast that the nashville pussy artist did not...
either way.. i love you mr gun.. tofu for you!
  2003-02-10 13:48:04
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   more skulls.   2003-02-10 12:47:01
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   obviously something was going through the artists heads, obviously it's intended to cause a reaction. so was that entirely unimaginative nashville pussy poster with a confederate flag and a pussy.
yeah, this poster makes me feel uneasy too. so did seeing the planes hitting the towers about a million times on tv. who accounts for taste?
as a design, i think this is good. i'm not going to fall victim to the subject matter.
  2003-02-10 12:46:35
perkinsSend perkins a message :   I feel 100% certain that given time, someone would (and will again) use 911 imagery in a poster. Shock value is a plus. It's not propaganda aimed at Americans, so don't be so easily offended. It's very interesting to me how designers in other parts of the world draw inspiration from sources based on their own views. It's just a poster. We have no boundaries, no exceptions.   2003-02-10 12:43:33
Platinum RichSend Platinum Rich a message :   to me it's obvious these buildings are falling cause giant fucking people are standing on them.   2003-02-10 12:34:17
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   design wise this is a cool poster, I'm not too keen on the subject matter it does make me feel uneasy. One would pretty much have to know what was going through the artists head when this was made, If this was a jibe at Americans and 9-11 then I think it was done in very poor taste, otherwise I think it's a good design and works well..and by the way, that "New York firefighter" comment was pretty ignorant. Just my two cents.   2003-02-10 12:31:02
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Reactionaries make me giggle. I'm giggling like a school girl.
  2003-02-10 12:27:56
perkinsSend perkins a message :   so much for my cat poster idea   2003-02-10 12:26:34
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   tis completely cool with me.
i'm the one being reactionary right now, i'm in a fighting mood because my 17 year old cat is on death's door. please excuse my rants henceforth.
  2003-02-10 12:13:02
JephSend Jeph a message :   No problem Sho, I just wanted to make myself clear, and not come off as reactionary.   2003-02-10 12:10:09
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   jeph, you made your comments before pretty clearly. you don't like it. that's cool. i wasn't addressing hat you said.
my problem is with people criticizing something outright with nothing to back it up but the notion that it's distasteful to americans.
i don't know where brendan jordan gets off with the spanish armada comment and how that shit pertains to anything.
yeah, it's cliche to hate the US, i hate that lofty european attitude as much as anyone else, but people have to deal with reality. i spent the whole day on 911 wondering if my sister was dead and i'm not using that a simplistic defense for why i like or dislike this poster.
  2003-02-10 12:07:03
JephSend Jeph a message :   Yeah Chloe, I like some of his stuff, I just don't care for this one.   2003-02-10 12:03:47
seripopSend seripop a message :   i think design-wise this guy constantly cranks out some of the best stuff around   2003-02-10 12:01:05
JephSend Jeph a message :   Perhaps I overstated my dislike by calling it shit, and for that I apologize, but I still don't like it.   2003-02-10 11:57:25
JephSend Jeph a message :   "I" think it's shit because I don't like the "design", not because of the subject matter, that's why I stated "even if the buildings were still standing...." So my comment wouldn't be construed as "sensitive" to the use of the 9/11 imagery. Just how someone could arrive at the notion that I didn't like it because of the subject, I could also arrive at the notion that people like it BECAUSE of the subject matter, likes it's "edgy" oooh what balls it takes to use the World Trade Center in a poster, I don't like it as a poster PERIOD.   2003-02-10 11:45:11
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   but look at the short shorts on that guy..   2003-02-10 10:24:53
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   It's not even accurate!
The planes both hit way higher than is depicted here. I saw the news.
  2003-02-10 10:22:17
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i believe it eats shit cause jeph says so..
i prefer to have my comments be addressed as "brainwashed"
  2003-02-10 10:19:02
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   oh, and i don't mean to suggest that his poster is a cookie-cutter response. i was addressing the comments.   2003-02-10 08:40:39
standardSend standard a message :   Rock the mic, gun sho.   2003-02-10 08:40:06
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   why does this totally eat shit?
these artists are from spain, are they supposed to feel the same away about 911 as most americans do? they're as removed from the events of 911 as we are from they're situation with the ETA (Basque separatists). it's all about context, it's ignorant to take a stand against something without considering it's context.
yeah, hold this poster up to a new york fireman and piss him off. it wouldn't be brave, it would be stupid.
everyone has a different perspective, i'm fucking sick of these cookie-cutter responses to what's going on in the world.
  2003-02-10 08:39:22
needlesSend needles a message :   Good concept. Art is the only place for this sort of shit! Rendered, this would have been really cool.   2003-02-10 08:29:08
seripopSend seripop a message :   well i can garantee ya alot more people in the usa have died from getting a gun shoved in thier face or a car accident and posters that feature those are usually considered cool. i'm not defending either i just think it's hypocritical to think one potralyal of violence is cool and get upset at another   2003-02-10 08:24:21
standardSend standard a message :   I think it takes awhile for wounds to heal. Think about the people who died on the Hindenberg. That image has become practically iconic. Led Zeppelin etc. There's some computer mag out on the newsstands this month with a slightly doctored Hindenberg photo on the cover w/ the headline like "MP3s! Burn, Baby, BURN!"
Yeah, uh... people fucking died on that, okay?
  2003-02-10 08:18:20
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   heh.. i like the guy in the short shorts
jeph LOVES mondays
  2003-02-10 08:06:57
JephSend Jeph a message :   This is shit, even if those buildings were still standing and those 3000 people still here, this would be shit.   2003-02-10 08:03:18
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   ps. personally this makes me queesy.. and somewhat sad and angry..   2003-02-10 07:27:32
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   when you put moral limits on something you draw a line.. the same can be said about sexual posters... posters with women in bondage, people being shot in the head... car accidents.. someone shooting up smack... people can get upset about those..
i can APPRECIATE a persons grief due to the WTC, but people suffer emotionally from many different things...
id hate for people to put limits on how they want to create something due to a sore spot..
YES this is very sore for people who lost people in the wtc (me included)...
but id hate for people to shrug off something they want to do because of others wounds.
i hope that made sense.. if not. sorry..
  2003-02-10 07:21:25
Stainboy ReinelSend Stainboy Reinel a message :   ....I didn't realize those are the WTC towers. Doesn't rule. Although where does the line get drawn? You see way more disturbing subject matter on posters that seem to offend very few here.   2003-02-10 01:52:00
sseldenSend sselden a message :   this totally eats shit.   2003-02-10 01:28:44
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   It rules unless you're from NY and the guy who had his locker next to you for 3 years in High School, not to mention 3000 other people died in the WTC.
I'm all for artistic expression, but this just seems inappropriate -- and anyone who thinks it seems brave, keep in mind this person is in Madrid, the capital of a country that never overcame the Armada.
Also, if it's so brave, I dare you to hold it up in front of one of the FDNY guys, or an entire Firehouse of them . . . that would be brave.
  2003-02-09 22:32:04
menor66Send menor66 a message :   cojonudo!!!   2002-12-24 04:02:54
Stainboy ReinelSend Stainboy Reinel a message :   Rules!   2002-12-18 06:37:11
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   le cadavre sent this to me right after he finished it, fucking rules. this kid does awesome work.   2002-12-17 14:05:04
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   this is great.   2002-12-17 12:25:31
Bradley W. ZimmermanSend Bradley W. Zimmerman a message :   this rocks. you think any of us in the states could get away with doing somehting like this yet?
kind of strange to think that the WTC is considered a 'tragedy meme' to the rest of the world. pretty much the same way that we think of tienneman square, or inniskillen...
  2002-12-17 10:48:06
godisoldSend godisold a message :   hmmmmmmmmm...is that WTC   2002-12-17 10:07:16
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   word. this is all over the place! i like how stiff the flames look, too.   2002-12-17 10:00:11
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