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DESIGNER:

Art Chantry

VENUE:

CoCA

Seattle

USA

SUBMITTED BY:

Jamie

2002-10-17 08:41:48

BANDS:

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Sky Cries Mary Poster - CoCA, Seattle - Art Chantry

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soupsandwich :

rulez

2008-09-16 22:47:28

modrocket10 :

Classic!

2004-03-11 21:30:34

crave :

My absolute favorite Chantry poster. This is my type of wit.

2003-05-28 18:55:31

artboy :

cool poster, cool tool set, cool name...Damn'it Art yer just plain cool.

2003-04-09 02:06:56

Dana C :

big swirl lollipop

2002-11-13 17:58:22

vader :

Pm--I was being facetious when I asked Art how he did this.

2002-10-20 01:02:10

Darren Grealish :

Very cool Art. I can relate to your comment on thinking like the original guys who did tha layout. I remember once getting my hands on an enormous box of film seperations from the 60's of nothing but grocery store coupon newspapers. It had beautiful RGB color seps of Like perfectly rendered steak dinners and like cans of beans etc in perfect condition. I had to remove text from the film and use the shit out of an exacto. I ended up doing a great shirt design out of a chicken dinner with corn on the cob and veggies. I used process inks which are transperent. The shirts came out perfect. Sometimes it gets really fun.

2002-10-19 12:40:41

art chantry :

pm - i think the poster took maybe a day or so. not long. i work REAL fast. the most work came in cutting the color overlays and taking the thing apart. putting it together was fast and fun. besides, it was the only way to figure out how those guys (who lived in the culture that created that ad) thought. i needed to try to become them in a way. so, i had to do this long drawn-out process to learn their (graphic) language. it's something i love to do - it's how i expand my 'vocabulary' and integrate their ideas and thinking into my mind. by the time i did that penis-cop poster years later, i could do that 'tool ad' look without blinking. i think that penis cop poster took an afternoon. it's been ripped so many times that by the time it filtered down to a cheezy frat-boy dorm room poster i was actually rather complimented. it means my work has become the sort of design language that others feel the need to learn and interperate in the same way i had to learn and interperate the 'tool' poster. it's when i know that i'm onto something a little bigger than myself - a lrger cultural dialog that i find really fascinating.
another thing i wnt to point out - those old ads were all done in letterpress with lead type. it's a look that really can't be re-created in other methods. in order to give that 'clunk' look to the typography that can only be had with letterpress, i mixed two different typefaces together (demi-weights of franklin gothic and futura). i had the type set in coldtype both ways and then cut them all apart and mixed them together almost at random. the result is that even thought these two faces look almost the same, they are very different, and when you put them side by side they give a clunky clash that buzzes. the result is some type that gives the feels of letterpress that is done in an entirely different way. that points out the extremes i went to in thinking this shit through.
there werre also small 11x17 b&w posters to go with each event that played off the poster previous and they became one of the finest series of posters i've evr done. i still drag them out once in a while and lay them out consecutively by date and watch my thinking fine tune and become something totally new to me.

2002-10-19 10:16:36

JGex :

Art - I knew what ya meant! Just sorta chuckling to myself over the idea of maybe being referred to as "kid" heh.
So, do ya remember how long it *did* take to put the tool ad together? I always wondred....

2002-10-19 09:40:57

drowningcreek :

I just read that article on the folks that "borrowed" from the penis cop poster....for a pro-pot campaign. I about fell over laughing.
What was your reaction besides the one they had in the article?

2002-10-19 09:33:16

supersucker :

the world is against me. it everyone elses fault.

2002-10-19 09:26:11

art chantry :

pm - i guess it did read like that. sorry. i just assume that everybody here knows that you and jeff are not stupid, liitle or kids. but there do seem to be a lot of those little fuckers causing trouble on this site. ignorant lot, ya know?
rich - i've heard that from every client for over ten years. almost daily. uhg!

2002-10-19 09:22:31

Platinum Rich :

"make it tool-looking."
bet you never heard that one before.

2002-10-19 09:19:37

JGex :

lol, did you just call us all "stupid little kids?" hehe
Thanks for the explanation.. that's what I love about this board - there are things explained or said here that we'd never read in any of the design books or tomes. They always put that little "happy face" on everything. Nice to be able to hear the "behind the scenes" version.

2002-10-19 09:19:29

art chantry :

i love it when you stupid little kids argue. it makes me feel vindicated for my cranky attitude. (go figger than one out).
pm - i 'hate' this one for a number of reasons. in a big way it almost ruined my 'career' in that it became the style i was known for, even though it started as a one-shot joke. and then a million people accused me of all kinds of awful things (lazy, theif hack, etc. you've seen most of that stuff on this site. it's been going on for over a decade). it also became one of those styles that everybody took on as their own, never once thinking somebody came up with this idea alone. in a big way, i'm still having to live this damn thing down. an awful lot of people made an AWFUL LOT of money off this idea, and i sure as hell didn't know how to exploit it. i'd been experimnting with this stuff in my collage approach to design, but actually taking an ad, deconstructing it -tearing it apart - and rebuilding it into a new ad wholly inappropriate for the subjct matter became a classic punk dialog.
so, i do appreciate this thing, but i need to distance myself from it simply because it sort of my frankenstein monster. it's constantly trying to bring me down, ya know?

2002-10-19 09:12:30

drowningcreek :

I thought Johnny Thief told you to Fuck off the other day.

2002-10-19 09:03:38

drowningcreek :

and you still annoy me.....

2002-10-19 09:03:10

JGex :

In 1991? yea, we got our first macs at the paper in 1991. Up until then, it was Linotype-Hell, an exacto & opaque pens. I still have my knife & my metal pica pole from then.... I love putting together paste-ups this way.
I didn't know you hated this one, Art.... it's extrememly nice!

2002-10-19 09:02:26

drowningcreek :

Curiousity killed the cat....

2002-10-19 09:02:20

EMOfag :

micheal- yea, apparently a few of us younger kids wanted to get together and help each other out, but somehow that seemed to scare a few of the folks here, and now they like to argue with us and call us names whenever we post, regardless of what we are posting.

2002-10-19 09:01:29

drowningcreek :

Mike...it's too long story to relate here. Read some of the old forums.they will explain the whole hilarious saga.

2002-10-19 09:00:10

EMOfag :

uhm, okay. sorry for being curious.

2002-10-19 08:59:44

art chantry :

i did this thing in 1991 (pre computers, pretty much). this is probably THE poster that freaked out more people than any poster i've evr done. up until this poster, really nobady had really done an appropriation of an old ad quite as balls-out as this. it totall bugged out seattle. the poster got better reviews in the paper than the events listed on it. i actually had intelligent, sophoisticated folks tell me that this poster changed their lives. it was written about in the design press all over the planet, most notably in a famous article by steve heller titled 'the cult of the ugly' where this one was used as an example of 'good ugly' as opposed to 'ugly ugly'. afte this poster hit the street there immediately popped up a thousand imitation versuions. old ad appropriation became one of the hallmark styles of music underground circles and 'grunge'. major companies like urban outfitters hired me to establish their look based on this style. old navy specifically went after this style (along with csa) as the style for them to steal as their corporate look (this was ascertained in court where this and my urban outfitter stuff was used in evidence). this is most likely the most important poster of my entire career and maybe my high point as a theorist. this is most likely the one piece i'll be remembered for in 'art' history.
i really really hate this piece.

2002-10-19 08:58:25

Michael Apparatus :

Spring Chicken crew?

2002-10-19 08:57:48

drowningcreek :

Hey Michael....We really are nice folks...there's just not any innocent questions coming from that spring chicken crew. The like to poke....we just poke back. LOL

2002-10-19 08:55:23

Michael Apparatus :

Sheesh! Note to self: don't ask the drowning creek kids innocent questions.
This would make a great poster for Tool.
Ha . . . Ok, sorry.

2002-10-19 08:52:26

supersucker :

gee any wonder every week you fight with someone here? ever think of why?

2002-10-19 08:51:04

drowningcreek :

kevin...you annoy me.

2002-10-19 08:45:53

JGex :

Why would I have any of the old newspaper stuff, kevin? I worked there from '84-'94.

2002-10-19 08:44:56

EMOfag :

hey, just asking. no need to get yur panties in a bunch. i really didnt know.

2002-10-19 08:44:48

drowningcreek :

Check our webpage...idiot. We average 3-5 posters a week dipshit. While you sit here and waste your time ...we actually do posters.

2002-10-19 08:43:26

EMOfag :

judy - wow, you used to do design work for a newspaper and stuff? i thought you were just a printer. do you have any of your work online anywhere?

2002-10-19 08:38:42

seripop :

what can i say? no one come close to being as good as chantry. sweeeeeeet!

2002-10-19 08:28:36

r0ckhardman :

i can't believe i don't get a bite for callin y'all granma...no fair...

2002-10-19 08:26:52

JGex :

Yea, you can really tell when people put time into their work, huh?
We had hours to put something like this together and cut a color plate. Deadlines were tight, ya know?

2002-10-19 08:26:16

seripop :

i just said i can't believe he did it cause it must have taken a week or longer...

2002-10-19 08:23:12

r0ckhardman :

tahm's sho' hev changed huh granma...

2002-10-19 08:21:47

JGex :

Why can't you believe Art did it?

2002-10-19 08:21:13

seripop :

um i know HOW to do it just can't believe art did it. must of took a week! all our type is done by hand, that's why our posters don't have alot of type (:

2002-10-19 08:16:36

JGex :

These are exactly like the ads we put together for the newspaper..... all type set on film and then cut apart to get it to fit.
Curved type? Done by hand. Skewed type? Done by hand. Artwork in 50 pieces - compiled by hand. Reverses? Done on a stat camera, hand cut and edges blackened with markers.
Me? Amused that the Spring Chickens can't conceive of how to do this.

2002-10-19 08:13:29

vader :

Art how the fuck do you do this? I mean, tell me! How do you do this by HAND? HOW???
I'll get you ART CHANTRYEEEEEE!!

2002-10-18 23:32:05

seripop :

crazy fucker!

2002-10-18 13:27:14

5Rock :

Didn't Chantry set all of this type by hand?

2002-10-18 13:25:18